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Post by V-HAB on Feb 6, 2010 22:32:09 GMT -5
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Post by Carson! on Feb 7, 2010 10:22:51 GMT -5
Atlanta got a pretty good return. Bergfors is a good young player, Oduya's a solid top 4 D, Cormier is a fairly promising prospect and a first is usually pretty good.
If Kovalchuk chooses not to sign with the Devils, and if they don't go far in the play-offs, I'd say they got spanked in this deal.
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Post by Mr. Hockey on Feb 7, 2010 22:48:45 GMT -5
bad trade Atl could had got more if they would had let the team talk to Kov. to sign a deal. I like say they could had got more.
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Post by Carson! on Feb 8, 2010 9:13:24 GMT -5
It's a better return than what Hossa got as an impending UFA IMO. In a season where trades just don't happen anymore. I think it was good. Especially for ATL's future.
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Post by V-HAB on Feb 8, 2010 10:32:48 GMT -5
Kovalchuk's agent already said publicly that they will be testing Free Agency in the offseason. There's no way he could have signed with a team before the trade. Knowing this, I think Atlanta got a pretty good return for a player they were going to lose either way.
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Post by Mr. Hockey on Feb 8, 2010 12:39:03 GMT -5
I still dont like the trade lol
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Post by V-HAB on Feb 8, 2010 14:09:11 GMT -5
What would have been a good return in your opinion?
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Post by Mr. Hockey on Feb 8, 2010 14:12:57 GMT -5
its really hard to pick players from the devils line up, i had him going to LA. But I would had try to get 1 roster player, 1 young guy playing in the juniors and 2 draft picks.
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Post by V-HAB on Feb 8, 2010 14:17:24 GMT -5
The thing is though, Atlanta is not really rebuilding anymore, they're pushing for the playoffs. I'm sure the plan is to have Bergfors replace at least a portion of Kovalchuk's production, and I would not be surprised to see them bring in another forward at the deadline.
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Post by Mr. Hockey on Feb 8, 2010 14:27:19 GMT -5
RW Niclas Bergfors: been in and out of the line up, they say he is a top 6 forward he isn't
D Johnny Oduya: going to have problems in ATL because he isn't a top dmen. Was good in new jersey because of the system they play.
F Patrice Cormier: not even going to start with him
a first-round pick and second-round pick: going to be bad picks at the end of the day
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Post by Carson! on Feb 8, 2010 16:40:33 GMT -5
RW Niclas Bergfors: been in and out of the line up, they say he is a top 6 forward he isn't D Johnny Oduya: going to have problems in ATL because he isn't a top dmen. Was good in new jersey because of the system they play. F Patrice Cormier: not even going to start with him a first-round pick and second-round pick: going to be bad picks at the end of the day Hahaha Good analysis though. I think Bergfors has a higher ceiling than you expect him to. Same with Cormier. You never know with first rounders though. Some late picks can turn out to be stars. |
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Post by V-HAB on Feb 8, 2010 17:29:08 GMT -5
Cormier will be an NHL player no doubt. He just has to grow up a bit, and I'm sure this last incident rattled him. Bergfors was also on a great pace earlier this season. Some people were even saying that he would be in the race for the Calder. Consistency comes with age, I have no doubt that Bergfors will be a valuable asset to Atlanta. The pick is a gamble, but you never know. And the best thing about Oduya is that it makes Kubina expendable; he's a UFA this year and they'll probably be able to deal him to a contender at the deadline for some more good young assets or picks.
Considering the circumstances, I think Atlanta did very well. Obviously, nothing can compare to losing a franchise player like Kovalchuk, but since they were going to lose him anyway, getting a good young top-six forward, top-four defenseman in his prime, top prospect, and a first rounder... That's pretty good.
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Post by Mr. Hockey on Feb 8, 2010 18:26:39 GMT -5
hey, i'm just saying what I think guys.
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Post by V-HAB on Feb 8, 2010 18:53:01 GMT -5
hey, i'm just saying what I think guys. Your opinion is as good as ours, nothing personal, just arguing my point-of-view for the sake of discussion.  |
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Post by Mr. Hockey on Feb 8, 2010 19:36:23 GMT -5
no problem with that VD, I guess we will know by the end of the season or in a couple of years who wins this trade. I have a feeling that Kov. is going to the KHL, rumor has it that there is a team that is ready to give him the big bucks.
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