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Post by Carson! on Feb 21, 2010 22:27:18 GMT -5
Yep..Canada **** the bed there.
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Post by Mr. Hockey on Feb 21, 2010 22:39:40 GMT -5
no Marty **** the bed
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Post by V-HAB on Feb 21, 2010 22:53:45 GMT -5
Miller was unbelievable though... Wow.
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Post by razer on Feb 21, 2010 23:10:11 GMT -5
Without Miller there is no way in hell they would of won without him. The veterans for canada did not elevate their game especially brodeur wtf was he doing on the second goal??? The young guys like crosby, nash, toews, keith, doughty stepped up. Our power play is not much better than it was at the 2006 olympics if it doesnt improve forget gold medal. I wanna see luongo in net the rest of the way its do or die now so you need to stick with one. Even though we lost we still played pretty well except for the few breakdowns. Hopefully the adversity they faced in the preliminary round will help them the rest of the way. NO NEED TO PANIC GO CANADA GO!!!
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Post by Mandoli on Feb 22, 2010 1:14:25 GMT -5
Maybe this is a stupid question, or maybe this is something that needs to be taken into account. But do you guys think that maybe Canada needs to shake up their lines big time? Not just in the sense of moving people around, but even as far as actually putting out the right people at the right times.
Some of the ice time given out is pathetic, and I fail to see reasoning behind someone's methods there. (Check the boxscore, you'll see what I mean.) I thought they were putting out the players who were key for certain situations. Either they really crapped it through the game, or someone's not using them wisely.
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Post by Mr. Hockey on Feb 22, 2010 6:33:32 GMT -5
really razer no need to panic, if we lose another game we are done like dinner. Canada needs to get there crap together. They need to realize that they have to play a 60 minute game not only the end of the 3rd period. Also they can't always thing that Sid the Kid is going to bring then back into games. Also they need a goalie that can make a key stop at the right time of the game. But at the end of the day USA came out and played and Canada decided not too, but its there problem not mine. Oh, and didn't I say that the goalies for Canada was going to be a question mark?  Sorry if I was a little mean in this post but I'm sick on tired of else always losing to a good team. Mandoli: I agree with you some of the playing time that there are handing out doesn't make any sense. And for the lines they can change it up in some way but I really think it will not make a differences if they do. Also good game by the states tonight. Yes Miller won then the game but I was really happy with the way that they came out and played tonight. If they can keep on playing like a team keeping things simple. I can see then walking out of Vancouver with a top 3 finish. P.S. I feel like I just wrote a story lol Mr. Hockey |
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Post by razer on Feb 22, 2010 10:53:24 GMT -5
I dont know about you guys but I think they should of got mike green say what you want about him. Most points for defencemen last 2 seasons, probably do better than that pylon pronger takes stupid penalties. For a guy of his size he sure doesnt use it. Green would probably help our power play which is non existent. I said from day 1 luongo should be starter and he better be the rest of the way. You can't keep changing up your lines in a short tournament. For the most part we played well at times we absoultly dominated the board play the bounces just didnt go our way. Now until we are down late in the third with time running out there is NO reason to panic. It was one game time to move on and prepare for Germany there is lots of leadership in that room no reason why we cant regroup.
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Post by Mr. Hockey on Feb 22, 2010 12:45:21 GMT -5
okay, your going to put Mike Green on the team. A guy that can't play D. I wouldn't like to see him playing againts Russia. They would just kill him. Yes I agree that Pronger is a pylon but I would take him over Green any day. Also I do think that Canada is going to win Germany but after that they have to play Russia, and thats when they play there last game in Vancouver. I don't see then winning Russia. Also I said from day 1 there goalies were going to have problems too. All I'm saying if they lose they have LOTS of questions to answer.
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Post by Mandoli on Feb 22, 2010 17:07:46 GMT -5
Okay, maybe it's kind of senseless to have the coach start jumbling lines around every five minutes if nobody can score. "Oh, God. We can't score! We need to see what works!" See what works in the first period. If it doesn't work, you don't go changing it around numerous times in a game. Maybe once. And if that doesn't work, well... And yes, like I said with ice time... In a game against the US, why are you giving about five minutes of ice time to a guy? I kept hearing the same names over and over again, and barely heard others. (People on other boards are using ice time as a reason to call people out. I don't understand how that's logically possible.) I dont know about you guys but I think they should of got mike green Not so sure I agree with you there. Yes, Green's an offensive threat, but sometimes his defensive skills are left to be desired (from what I hear). A team like Russia would pretty much steamroll right over both he and whomever is paired with him. But if you play against goalies who pretty much stand on their head (Hiller and Miller), then how are you going to score goals? It's a double standard. You can't score if a goalie plays like a Vezina winner, but you can't stop goals from going in if your D sucks. |
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Post by razer on Feb 22, 2010 19:07:42 GMT -5
Ya if they loose because of there powerplay they will be asked why did u not choose mike green to play on team canada. Hes not that good defensively but at least he doesnt take senseless penalties and you could give him less minutes. You could put him on powerplay and less ice time 5 on 5. We need offence from defence and were not getting it so yes I do think they should of chose him. The only goalie who is having problems is brodeur which is why luongo should be starter rest of the way and he will be tomorrow. Miller was so good because they did not go high on him very often. They need to get more dirty in front of their net example, bump him a bit, snow shower him, little things like that. To be honest I dont get why we are struggling to score with so much fire power.
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Post by Mandoli on Feb 22, 2010 19:39:48 GMT -5
To be honest I dont get why we are struggling to score with so much fire power. When there are other people who say that the team should get rid of the "scrubs" now and pick up the top scorers, I feel almost guilty. Either they're inept and don't realize that no, you can't bring anybody once the tournament starts, or they think they're better at picking a team than Yzerman and company. Besides - when the people you brought can't score, what makes someone think that another goal scorer would have helped? Oh, by the way... One real important line change: Staal on Sid's line. Nash to the Ducks line. Even so, I should expect to see the same three lines being rolled out and about one or two players getting less than ten minutes tomorrow night? Peachy.  |
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Post by Mr. Hockey on Feb 22, 2010 20:05:10 GMT -5
at the end of the day we will not agree on this topic lol
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Post by Carson! on Feb 22, 2010 21:40:06 GMT -5
I actually agree with Mandoli. Maybe the line's do need a change. By the looks of it Babcock is putting guys who are familiar with each other out together (SJ line, Keith-Seabrooke, Getzlaf-Perry. etc.). Which is a good strategy, but they're not trying anything else and there could be guys on that team that mesh better with players who are not on their NHL club. I've seen Heatley-Getzlaf-Nash rip up the World Championship like it was the World Juniors and they had never played together before. You never know. Why not change up the lines a little and see what happens?
As for the Brodeur/Luongo debate...If you can call it that. Luongo is going to be starting against Germany, and hopefully for the rest of the Olympics, I've said from the beginning that he should be the starter.
No Mike Green should not be playing
The scrubs probably being Bergeron, Staal, Perry and Morrow play some of the best 2-way hockey. I wouldn't swap them even if I could.
I don't feel the need to worry after the loss. Especially a loss with such a huge upside. I was very angry after the loss, I was putting blame on Brodeur, Perry and the defense. But after all, let's be reality here; When was the last time anyone one the gold going undefeated? With the talent coming from the other countries (Russia, Czech, USA, Sweden...many more) I don't see how anyone could go undefeated. They shouldn't be expected to win all the games. So no sweat guys...we'll get 'em next time.
Eh Oh Canada Go!
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Post by razer on Feb 22, 2010 22:45:40 GMT -5
I agree with you Carson I Dont feal the need to worry either this is a team with a lot of leadership they have 7 players that are captain of their nhl team. Its just like a game 7 its do or die there is alot of guys with game 7 experience on the team. I Just hope the veterans step up it like the younger guys have done. I am curious to how Canada will come out tomorrow
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Post by Mandoli on Feb 22, 2010 23:19:48 GMT -5
By the way, I'm not calling the fourth liners scrubs. My only concern with them is that I don't think I ever see them off the bench. I thought they were there based on their two-way play. Kind of hard to use that ability when you're sitting on pine for sixty minutes.
Now, why is this the case? I know this was made to stop the Russians (may be a bit premature in that scenario), but is Babcock thinking something totally different? Must be why I don't hear some of the names a whole hell of a lot. And what's the point of carrying players of different trades when you're not going to be using them as much as you would have liked to?
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